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Growing Up, Waking Up, and Reclaiming the Sacred: A Conversation with Maggie Hamilton

• Anjani • Season 1 • Episode 3

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In this illuminating episode of the Wisdom We Share podcast, we sit down with writer, researcher, and storyteller Maggie Hamilton for a powerful exploration of inner maturity, sacred living, ancestral healing, and what really happens when adults hold on to the traits of their inner teenager.

Maggie invites us to rethink how we grow, how we connect, and how we reclaim our responsibility to ourselves and to future generations. From the impact of emotionally unavailable adults on children, to the rise of escapism, to the loss of ritual and community in modern life, this conversation spans the tender, the practical, and the deeply spiritual.

We also explore Maggie’s love of nature, her daily sacred practices, her thoughts on the quantum field and lineage healing, and the surprising power of connecting with people who are different from us.

If you’ve ever wondered what true adulthood looks like beyond age, milestones, or societal expectations, this episode will land deeply.

In this episode we explore:

  • Why so many adults still operate from an “inner teenager”
  • The consequences of emotional immaturity on children and families
  • The loss of ritual in modern Western culture
  • How sacredness can be infused into everyday city life
  • The rise of escapism and the hunger beneath it
  • How nature mirrors the sacred and expands our awareness
  • Why connecting with people different from us builds humility
  • How ancestral healing affects both past and future generations
  • The power of intergenerational connection
  • Simple daily practices to grow inner maturity
  • Honouring aging, transitions, and the thresholds of life

Find out more about Maggie's work:

Website: www.maggiehamilton.org
Free guided meditation (use the day’s date as the receipt number):
https://www.maggiehamilton.org/books/fairies/inside-secret-life-fairies

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I think it would be to connect with people who are different from them and uh just in in daily life and you know there's always that part of us that wants comfortable so you know we're very happy to mix with people who are the same as us because it's not particularly challenging but I think to connect people with people pardon we come across who are very different from us and that of course is the joy of travelling off the beaten track because you're forced to do that and what it does is it grows our humanity so it's less about judging people as different after a while to that natural wanting to connect with others because our humanity is reaching out to them and I think that's something that we struggle with cause we all live in our little silos and to realise people have different viewpoints um including political viewpoints some of which we might find a struggle but there may be pathways still to connect to that person lovingly and kindly and learn a bit why they think the way they do or whatever and um I think that's a great growth little practice to do and brings lots of joy I think and surprises welcome to the Wisdom We Share podcast where ancient truths and modern intelligence weave together to inspire ground and shape us for a wiser awakened life I'm Angie Amrit and I'm Robin Wald and together we bring you fascinating conversations from the worlds of spirituality science and human behavior so you can connect to your own inner wisdom joy and clarity elevating the way you actually live your life today we are honored to be speaking with Maggie Hamilton a writer researcher and storyteller whose curiosity about why we do what we do how our lives intersect and what we reclaim from the past has taken her into remarkable terrain from social research to spirituality from children's books to fairy law and from sacred places to the invisible landscapes of inner life Maggie brings a depth and breadth of wisdom that invites us all to live deeper her latest book what happens to our kids when we fail to grow up is a deeply honest look about the inner teenager that many adults never outgrow and how this unacknowledged immaturity impacts the next generation Maggie thank you so much for being here it's a thrill thank you ha ha you you write that the inner teenager in adults is often running the household what does it what does that mean and what does it take for someone to actually recognize when that younger part of themselves is steering their behavior that's a great question and we see this in a number of little cues the thing about being a teenager is that um we're very focused on our rightness which means everybody else has to be wrong when when we get choices we're always looking for easy what's the easiest option and it tends to be the option that suits us not what not how that option might impact on others it's also um things like um when there are arguments there's an unwillingness to put yourself in another person's shoes because you're operating from a defensive situation and you're always looking for other people to pick up the pieces and the sad thing I think of our culture right across the western world and it's leaking elsewhere into the world is that when we stay in that place of adolescence we forget the downsides of being an adolescence inside not ha um feeling any certainty within a deep certainty of moving forward that ability to reach out to others and to connect in ways that are deep and meaningful and nourishing um that ability to stand strong in the storm all those things um which we associate with adulthood which are now so it's so devalued in so many ways are actually strengths which enable us to navigate life at its most difficult and most beautiful and if we can't stand strong in the storms of life the inevitable dark nights of the soul are going to be even more painful um so the ways forward is in not necessarily choosing the easy option but the best option and that might be something that requires a bit of sacrifice from us to benefit the whole it's about um daring to step out and do things that might be inconvenient for us that grow us up and then we see the benefit of that for those around us and the joy flows back so there are lots of little ways that we can grow ourselves up and there is a deep satisfaction when we do grow up because that strength makes us not only a safe place for ourselves but for those around us and that's a very powerful thing to be in life I just needed to let some of that settle that was um there's a lot of wisdom in that right um you know I work with teenagers and I I absolutely love teenagers so it's you know when you pointed out some of the qualities of teenagers that actually don't really serve our well being or our you know our wholeness as adults right um I think that the ones that you pointed out like you know going for what's easy instead of what's best or focusing on our own story at the center of everything and our own rightness and the inability to maybe take perspective outside of ourselves I definitely see your point and I just need to stand up for teenagers also and say and say that I also find teenagers in so many ways to be willing to self sacrifice for their friends for their family members for their community I see teens give up their time give up their money give up their energies and their talents to be of service to make a difference in the world so I see teens also as quite idealistic and hopeful whereas maybe adults can be more jaded or cynical or pessimistic I'm wondering what are the positive qualities of teenagehood that actually could help us be better parents or adults that maybe sometimes as adults we actually lose sight of well of course there are many wonderful things about being a teenager and I think as we progress through the various stages of life then the trick is to take the best parts of each of those decades those those stages with us and to be prepared to let go those that don't serve us so I mean the wonderful things many wonderful things about teenagers their idealism their energy their spontaneity their willingness to try new things those are all really wonderful I guess what I'm looking at is when we take those negative um traits into adulthood and we make a um we make them as ideals um that it's OK to be all about me and so forth and you know when you get people in their 50s who's still trying to pretend they're 25 and you know we've got the Botox and all the other stuff happening um then that diminishes the experience of what it's like to be in your 50s what the what the gifts are what the learnings are the difficult bits which are often the deep soul learnings sadly we often learn best when we go through those dark nights so it's certainly not that I see teenagers as um you know dreadful in fact you know I've I've devoted a number of years to really giving voice to the things that they they struggle with that because we're in a new landscape so many adults don't understand um so I don't want to pathologize but at the same time I think we have to put a steely eye on on where we're at because when we look around the world there's a heap of stuff that just is not working and I spend a lot of time in Asia travelling off the beaten track and I'm always blown away by how much more cohesive those communities are and so forth and I want that for all not just our teenagers but for our whole communities to make them more whole I think that um when we're talking about communities and connection and and growing ourselves up I think that unfortunately for most of us in the west our role models are skewed by media and social media and so people it you know it's not necessarily people's fault it's not people's fault that no their that their holding on to some of these negative teenager traits because that's that's all where fed that's all where conditioned and I think conversations like this are really important so people have a greater wider perspective you know you say you travel to the east me too you know I do a lot of traveling to the east and a lot of the culture that is still there in the east is much richer than our culture much richer much richer and so I think these kinds of conversations they can be a little bit confronting but I think if we can get past the discomfort of it and look at ourselves and ask ourselves well what if what if I took yeah precedence from a different culture what if I started to embrace my aging process what would happen yeah I'd be how can I find my footing there I think that we find and I know from the work I do with people that are moving through into their 50s especially women they gain a lot more self confidence a lot more sense of power when they can understand and actually embrace um the aging process yes so in that you explore the rise in adult escapism as well and I really yes to get your your wisdom around this so you talk about the need for distraction rescue avoidance so from your perspective what do you think sits at the heart of this um soul immaturity this or you know cultural immaturity if you want to want of a better word I think it's exactly as you say that people have been fed this is the solutions and I think also we have become lost in the mundane you know I love it in Buddhism where they talk you know we we look at different parts of the world where people might not have enough to eat and certainly don't necessarily have the resources that we are blessed to have and and we we look at those people and feel very sorry for them but we don't see our own soul hunger in the west that we are so hungry um like the hungry ghosts that um Buddhism talks about that when people pass over their spirits are are lost in craving that can never be fulfilled because they're no longer in the material world and I think it's because so little is sacred to us now and that that's one of the many reasons I love to spend time in the east is the sacred is very much part of the everyday and I think what the sacred does at its deepest is it enables us to look at the ordinary things in life and it might even be what we see is a little weed you know coming up between the cracks in the pavement and we can see the miracle of the life that is and it's it's seeing the extraordinary in the ordinary whether it's in people or nature or whatever and this explosion of of joy and connection and um and then I think comes the responsibility to protect that and um I just wish everybody could taste the sacredness that we we get in the east you know you're walking along the street and you get a whiff of incense and you go to step into a shop to buy something to eat or whatever and there's a little offering to the divine however that is characterized that is the first thing that people do before they open their shops as we know and all these things remind us of the other and I think when we get trapped in the mundane um it becomes an ever diminishing spiral and I think this is why we have such huge amounts of um mental health issues across the planet and um you know this this desire just to buy more and more and more to fill this void and as we know that's the path that's never going to work um and I I feel weary wants to be pitied really on the planet Maggie I'm curious what you do to connect with a sense of the sacred and the miracles that abound everywhere on a daily basis like do you have daily practices that bring you into that heightened awareness of the sacredness and the extraordinary it the yes I do so I have a um I I meditate um every every day and that includes also checking with my chakras and and doing a variety of things like that but I have a profound connection with nature and I live in the middle of a city I live in the inner city and one of my great thrills is to teach and share the insouling of our cities so that even if we've only got a tiny pocket park even if we've only got a beautiful tree down the road by connecting in with that living being that sentient being you develop a relationship and you can develop a dialogue and there is a lot of wisdom to be had in the rocks in the ground in the plants in the trees so they feed me and these and other spiritual practices I'm I'm very interested in ancestral healing and honouring not just the ancestors of my lineage but of the First Nation's people where I live but also honouring the fact that the spirit of the land on which I reside which nourishes me is living and sentient so what can I do to help nourish that space and I find those things just they make my heart explode with joy that's not to say that I don't have my dark nights of the soul I do and you know life has thrown some big things at me is it throws at everybody and it's all part of the mix um but I think it's about joy and little things for me that's where I see the sacred and um I think once you develop a relationship with the sacred it has a sense of humour and it does like to delight and surprise us and uh I think that's a wonderful thing I'd agree I think nature there's and science is catching up with what the ancients have already known there's a lot of science recent research around actually what being around trees and being in nature does to our biochemistry it's fascinating and it's bringing which is what I love scientific proof yeah to all of the spiritual wisdom the ancient wisdom that um the great masters have known the great cultures still um are inherent with um I think one of the most confronting ideas that you talk about in in your book is how children end up carrying the emotional burden of adults who haven't done this inner work who haven't grown their these negative aspects of their of their inner teenager what kinds of burdens are you seeing you know your research cause you are a great researcher um seeing kids holding today well I'll give you an example of boys because this is one that really it it it really shocked me cause it was something that I hadn't it wasn't in my line of sight and that is um I was actually one of the books I've I've written is called what men don't talk about and it looks at the lives of men and boys behind the stereotypes um which proved deeply healing for me um to to walk into that world and understand it in new ways so here I am interviewing this um special force ex special forces uh soldier and um a lovely guy and we're good friends and he was talking about when he was a little boy and his dad left and the whole wounding process that happened around that with his mum and it was I'm sure his mother would be devastated to know this but he was about 6 or 7 and he had two little sisters and she said now you're Mommy's little man and he said from that moment he said he felt he had to be the father except he's a little boy of 6 and he can't do that I mean even talking about it now makes me want to cry and I do wonder if that influenced his decision to be a special uh forces soldier anyway he did his best over a number of years um and then when he was 12 his mother found a new life partner and he said my heart was broken all over again and there's a mother trying to make things right but not understanding things from a child's point of view and and the you can imagine the emotional burden that kid is facing this is what so many of kids our kids are facing across the planet with broken relationships and look we respect the fact that not everybody can stay together but so many of the parents we have now are treat their kids like therapists so they're downloading their stuff onto their kids their emotional baggage asking you know kids to spy on what's happening with dad what's happening with mum if you're an adult fully fledged adult you wouldn't do that you would find places and people who you could download with but you would create that safe and nurturing environment for your children um we also see it in dress the way that um you know often older moms are trying to mimic their 20 25 year old daughter which in a way takes away the space for her to be 25 and it doesn't give her her trajectory for when she's 50 55 60 um it doesn't mean to say that we have to go around dressed you know like widow twanky or something but it does mean it's a very English expression that one um it does mean that we're far better to embrace who we are and where we're at rather than trying to fit the mould of the wrinkle free perfect woman um in a way that is very superficial yeah there's just one sorry sorry it's also go ahead finish your thought it's also oppressive it's oppressive on us as women I feel that to have that role model pushed and conditioned on us it's very oppressive and women um we've been dealing with oppression for for since we can remember and I just think this is a modern way of oppressing women it is and it's a it's a it's a whole you know like the Kardashians or whoever um it it it means that our kids and and as adults we're actually living outside ourselves we're living outside this wonderful living breathing temple and vehicle that we have for these few short years and everything is about how we are perceived so we're not actually living in our skin we're not actually owning our talents and our possibilities I wanted to go back to when you said that you were really fascinated with ancestral healing and the story that you just told about this young man and the burden that his mother put on him emotionally in the absence of his father one of the most profound teachings I ever heard that it comes back to me again and again I'm not sure I really understand it yet um was from Thich Nat Han and he said that when we really do true healing of ourselves and we come into our own wholeness that not only does it heal our generations going forward but it heals our ancestors going backwards and I'm wondering if you could speak to that that as we become more conscious and really adult even if it takes us a long time to get there but we really arrive at adulthood in our own lives in a way that heals us do you understand that that can go backwards through the lineage that we inherited absolutely because we're living in the quantum field and in the quantum field time has a very different uh meaning and it's a different experience so I I definitely believe the healing that we we gain and the growth we gain can go back through the quantum field and forward and I always ask for it to go in all directions'cause I think there's probably directions we haven't thought about yet um so all covers it and I think what we can also do is we can consciously ask that in moments you know if we're going for a healing um when I remember I I do um ask that this healing will flow back through the generations and and forward I also cause I love the ballet and I love the arts and you know I think a lot of my I think of a lot of my ancestors who never had access to those things you know through poverty and history and all that and so when I'm sitting at the ballet I invite them to come and sit with me and enjoy the beauty of it and um but this can sometimes feel like a burden for people it's like oh my god you know the family tree there's so many issues in it what am I supposed to do about this and what spirit has revealed to me is that pardon me we we gift our lineage our own healing we're not here to heal every single issue that has come up through time but we gift our healing and our growth and that is enough for us as we you know we're still on the journey of growth ourselves and I love that because it kind of takes away that burden of trying to make every single pain and disappointment and failure right it it also it takes the pressure off so yeah I think that looking at it that way and understanding that way it takes the pressure off because I know some people that I work with they do feel that pressure genuinely you know they're working on a yes path of self realization they're doing lots of healing and they feel a certain pressure obligation necessarily to do all the healing for their family as well and I'm saying that cause I used to be one of them you know I used to want to yes rescue everyone and so I think that's really something that we all need to hear is that we're not here to heal everyone and everything but in our own healing that also helps in our generation and every generation then can build on that and past generations it can be um healed as well with um just to kind of round off this topic with the traits of those aspects so it's not the whole of us let's get clear about this we're not saying adults are all teenagers we're saying there are no no there are aspects of self as we grow up particularly I I believe around the conditioning that we receive in the west that don't grow up these parts of self what you know if every adult did one small daily practice to mature themselves inwardly what would you recommend they could do into the day I have to admit that that wasn't the answer that I would have even guessed that you would go that that's what a beautiful thing like how do we become adults how do we you know move beyond that immaturity we connect with people who are different than ourselves so that we have a sense of humility and perspective about there's not just one right way it's not I'm not the center of the universe I'm just one of billions and there's a real humility in that how would you suggest parents can go about teaching that to children and to young people I love that and I think that's creating a household where um you do have things like volunteer activities or whatever and also within starting small you know if you're having a a a barbecue to invite a few neighbours um even of different ages I think that's a great thing for kids to experience and allow them to do a couple of things to have a couple of jobs that make that happen so it might be putting fairy lights up in a tree or whatever and for the older people who are coming to actually task them with taking care of that person in a couple of very practical ways making sure that person has enough food you know they might have mobility issues and something to drink not that they have to be around that person all the time but just to do something practical with that person and then after the barbecue to have a a a a bit of a debrief and say well how do you think Mrs Thing is going and oh well she seemed a bit sad you know because the cat's not too good at the moment or whatever and so that's really sad could we do something to you know perhaps we could offer to take the cat to the vet so you're actually teaching them a to connect with different age groups and B to how you practically nourish in a social environment and also don't feel so embarrassed that you stand on the edges all the time because you've got a job to do and then to see that that's an ongoing possibility you're actually teaching them the skill of connection and of uh nourishing those around them and feeling useful and teens like everybody else love to feel useful yeah you are so speaking to my heart at this moment because one of the things I do is I lead I facilitate intergenerational programming so that teens and elders in the community come together and share stories and wisdom with each other and friendship so it's so uncommon for teenagers who are busy with teenagers and going to high school and on their social media to connect with older people regularly if they're lucky and fortunate they have grandparents in their lives but many teens don't or their grandparents live far away or they've passed to create opportunities for young people to connect with older people is just I've seen it's just a huge blessing and a gift and it impacts in all directions like you said in all directions it does and I heard of a wonderful scheme going with one particular school where they that there were they could teach different languages at school learn different languages and they found elderly people in the community who were from those places like Italy and France and China and Vietnam and so they created a program where those kids could spend time with that elderly person speaking that language with them and what a blessing for everybody yeah delicious yeah I am I I was watching there's a docu series about it where they bring they literally bring older people together with younger people and it showed the massive uplift in you know the loneliness of the older people and and their infirmities improving so their mobility improved their speech their diction improved their outlook on life improved and then the younger people who were interacting with the older people who felt quite scared and quite inhibited around them in the beginning the older people with their wisdom that they brought really helped those younger people come out of their own shell self identify and adult themselves through the process so it was this beautiful exchange I think there's a lot of opportunity for schools to get involved in programs and set up programs like that absolutely and as you say everybody benefits it's a 360 degree and that's a delicious thing I think um when we can use our imagination in this way um it's not just about institutionalizing people and and that's it it's about being creative about how we keep those connections going even if people do need residential care and there's a lot of laughter in those situations as well and tears and I think the lovely thing is um elderly people have time to listen and you know when we're young everything is such a drama and I mean I know I I notice this myself now with younger friends you know who having huge dramas at work or whatever and it's just so big and I remember that back to the time when it was so big for me but having travelled a bit further down the track you you have a different perspective and you see your younger self then and hopefully you can bring a bit of balance into that and calm um and we all need to be heard yeah I I think a big part of our culture is missing where we lack the the initiations that we would have when we were tribal living there's no initiations to take us through the doorway the doorstep into the different phases of a of our life as we age and so I think that's another contributing factor as to why a lot of people in the west are trying to stay young because there are only role models and unfortunately Hollywood is our initiator and yes and so what would you have to say about that around knowing about ancient initiations and stages and phases of life what's your take on that I I'm a great believer in ritual if it's if it's grounded in something sacred and it can be very very simple um and I feel that you know life has become a blur for a lot of people I I think back to my dad um who's passed now but he was an incredible raconteur and his whole generation were because they noticed and remembered because they didn't have this swell of information and stuff washing over them every day and I feel it's important to create sacred moments for the young people in our lives um and and I do it in in simple ways um with some of the young people in my life where you know I'll do something with them at Christmas you know we might go and have a high tea or whatever if it's if it's a teenage girl um but then we'll go and walk in botanical gardens and we'll talk about the trees and the flowers and they'll take photos and just making it that sacred space between the two of us it's a dance of memory to connect them into their city in a way that is loving and not nourishing and I'm always surprised that you know several years later they'll remember some incident that of that and I think that's what it's about is memory um because these become cherished moments and it's like gathering nuts for winter for a squirrel then the dark nights of the soul come but we've got we've got a few nuts in our in our bag that can see us through that wintry time and I think sacred ritual and sacred memories and sacred really is about life enhancing it's it is about the growth of lightness life and love and um I think sometimes people feel that Sacred's really complex I think keep it simple um and and make it something that just nourishes through its simplicity and that benefits in all directions so I actually teach a class I teach 6th graders as well and I teach a class this year all about ritual sacred ritual oh I know I know I wrote this whole curriculum and one of the teachings that I came across that I thought was so beautiful is that ritual is the punctuation of daily life oh I like a lot isn't that amazing that punctuation gives us a pause gives us a break it makes us pay attention it's not just we're going from one thing to the next thing to the next thing to the next thing in our busy harried dramatic lives we're stopping we're a semicolon or a comma or an exclamation point to like add some spirit and excitement and ritual can do that so ritual like how I love what you're saying that it connects us to the sacred and that sacred is life enhancing so there's the ritual there's the like the what are we doing that's that we're ritualizing but there's the why which is like because it adds joy and meaning and you know it connects us to spirit and then there's the who like who are we doing ritual with right there are rituals we can do with our own soul there are rituals we could do with a tree in our favorite park there are rituals we could do with strangers or community to create connection so I'm wondering if you're engaged like like who who are the people that you're engaging with in a life enhancing sacred way well I I I I find myself uh connecting with lots of different people with the various projects I have and what I do once we've met and uh I I if if we're meeting again I always say well when can we get together for a sacred cuppa or a sacred pastor or a so now they all say that as well and that's exactly what you're saying you're denoting that this time it might just be half an hour to have a cappuccino together this is sacred space this is time out for us and yes so it it works a treat and I this to me this is all about insouling our lives but I'm particularly passionate about city life because so much of the planet now lives in towns and cities and we have often very negative things to say about city life but cities can be just as soulful as anywhere else um it's how we navigate them I fully agree I fully agree with that and I and you know especially for women because women you know if you talk to any indigenous person they will say women are the glue to community yes society and women are being increasingly isolated disconnected relying on machines relying on AI which disconnects even more especially women coming up to their 50s it seems that you know a lot of women that I work with that are coming up to their 50s are terrified that they yes coming up to their 50s and they're like I don't wanna go over that threshold it's scary and I'm not going to look young and what will become of me especially if you're single which a lot of women are yes and one beautiful sacred ritual that a friend of mine did with me for my 50th was um to have a ceremony so not a birthday party not getting dressed no but at my home I invited all my favourite people and we sat in circle and we exchanged thoughts about each other and then we literally just walked around in the circle on the outside of the circle and my friend who was already over 50 took me over into you know that next phase of my life oh beautiful and what it does these kinds of rituals that we can do in cities we can do in our homes it allows us to honour that next phase of life which yes we we don't have any role models for but just no you know having these conversations these are ideas that we can spread and share so that people can have those sacred coffers they can have those sacred rituals as they move into their wise elderhood phase and honor themselves in that and I think that in itself will bring a lot of maturity what do you think Maggie I think that's right and you know I hear people saying you know getting older it's it's it's awful and you know you're not you're not noticed anymore um that hasn't been my experience and I think it's very much tied to how you see yourself so if it's about having to gain attention then you know you're probably on a on a um a road to disappointment but if it's about connecting then there are so many people out there who want to connect um you you have a a useful role to play I think to hold space and as we were talking earlier to to hear deeply and see deeply and that's also what rituals about you see it's apart from deserving how each other's travelling it's also about seeing and hearing deeply where you are at at that moment in time and to set aside the opportunity to step across that threshold in a in a meaningful spiritual way is very empowering and it lights the path forward and I think I love what Ram Dass says where he says that um ultimately we're all walking each other home and I think if that was our motto as we regardless of our age and we would understand that differently at each stage of life and with different relationships there's nothing better there's nothing more profound than to help walk each other home yeah it's it's a beautiful um a beautiful quote I love Ram Das he's one of my favorites yes yes um as we wrap up and thank you for sharing your wisdom today um as we wrap up what message would you give to your younger self I'm interested I I think it's I would say worry less love more and trust the universe more and trust your intuition more um and everything will unfold as it's meant to I don't now believe that there is only one path for us I believe that the universe is so that has flung whole cosmoses into being is so creative there are many ways we can fulfill our potential and I think we often get lost in trying to find that one path and hanging on to it for dear life rather than treating life as a dance dancing with the atoms the atoms dance to dance with possibilities that's not to say not to have responsibility but not to be so rigid that we don't see all the sign posts that's a beautiful teaching and wisdom to share to leave us with um thank you so much for that thank you how you mentioned that you have a lot of projects going on I'm curious if you want to just close by telling us some of the projects you're most excited about or how people could find out more about what you're up to and where they can find your book or other teachings that you've created yes well I I teach ancestor I have ancestral healing groups um I'm still involved in book publishing and um I work on other people's work which is very exciting and I also uh continue to write books myself I'm now having a go at fiction um the last woman who was hung in England um retelling her story so that's and and then you know time in nature and uh sacred travels um and I love it and I feel very blessed to be able to do what I love and I'm I'm very I I'm always very humbled with the great spirit that I'm able to do what I love that's a great gift where can people find you Maggie online yes that probably the best place is my website which is maggiehamilton.org and you'll see from there I have a blog on the fairies which is really about how to connect them with the spirit of nature um but probably my website's the best place thank you can't wait yeah this has been a really rich and wide spanning conversation from ways we reclaim our inner teenager to sacred places outside and within us to the deeper into invitations to really live with more integrity and curiosity you've given us a way of seeing not just doing something about it so if this conversation has stirred something in you please follow all of Maggie's threads her books she's done lots of research written lots of amazing books I've read them all and um each one of them have opened my eyes to different aspects of life so thank you for that thank you for your time and your presence and your generosity today Maggie a great pleasure and thank you for the opportunity to talk with you both go well so much thank you thanks thank you so much for tuning in to the wisdom We share podcast we hope today's episode sparks some new insight imagination and practical tools you can integrate into your daily life continue this journey with us by subscribing sharing and dropping us a review until next time stay wise

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Anjani Amriit

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Maggie Hamilton

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